Many Nigerians looking forward to the anniversary of 100 days in
office of President Muhammadu Buhari were shocked to see that the
President has no interest in the anniversary. Senior Special Assistant
to the President on Media, Mallam Garba Shehu, tells OBIORA IFOH that President Buhari sees such anniversary as fraudulent and deceit. Excerpts:
How has it been so far under President Muhammadu Buhari, with 100 days gone?
When the President visited the United States, he did say that he does
not believe in celebrating 100 days because such activities are
fraudulent and that he will not engage in deceit. That is why he went to
his Daura home town. If Nigerians have anything to say about it they
should say it and I can assure you that the President will hear. But
there will be no special activities about that.
Does that mean there is nothing much to show?
Well, Nigerians will decide whether there is anything to show or not.
You represent public opinion. Without meaning to blow our own trumpet, I
just left a town hall meeting in Suleja organised by the BBC and I took
my notes. The ordinary Nigerians are praising President Muhammadu
Buhari for security in the country and some of them scored him 90
percent and above. There were tailors who used to open shops for two
hours in three days and now, they can open their shops for up to 20
hours a day and some of them are saying that sometimes they have 24
hours uninterrupted power supply. I think this is an opportunity to
clear the useless claim by the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, that it is
the work of Goodluck Jonathan that President Buhari has come to claim
credit for. The records are there with the Ministry of Power. All the
records are there.
They are saying power has improved because it is raining season. Let
me say that none of the hydro plants has added any megawatt. What is
going on is that, like the Americans will say, there is a new sheriff in
town. People are taking their cue from the fact that there is no
nonsense President who has taken over the administration of this country
and his body language sends the message. Nobody is blocking gas
pipelines, gas is flowing and there is better management and everybody
is standing up to do the right thing. Better management also means
better engagement. Whether it is the host community or youth groups who
are undermining things, they are looking at a selfless administration
serving the country for the sake of the country. This is the thing that
is responsible for the improved power supply. No hydro station has
increase output.
At the town hall meeting, somebody said they drove from Suleja to
Yola and back without any policeman or soldier stopping them to ask for
bribe and the same thing happened on the way back.
There is an
environment that has been generated by the presence of Buhari in Aso
Rock. Whether anybody likes it or not, it has changed things and we are
feeling safer and when people go to sleep, they are comforted by the
fact that there is somebody who will bolt the door. All these things
about security are happening because the soldiers themselves believe
that they are being led by a caring leader. Citizens are feeling that
the pressure of insecurity is going away not because Boko Haram has been
eliminated completely, but because of the work that has been done. The
management that has been brought to bear on the nation’s security is
reassuring. PDP wants to divert our attention. It issued a statement
that there is corruption going on even with Buhari in government. Maybe
they are alerting President Buhari that the men they left behind are
still continuing with their old game. In that case, maybe we should
watch out and do something about that
What informed the choice of Col. Hamed Ali as head of the
Nigerian Customs Service, when there are several career officers for the
President to choose from?
Well, I don’t know because the President didn’t talk to me on this.
Let me ask you one question. Do you, in all sincerity know Col. Hamed
Ali? If you do know him, how many of his types do we have in this
country? This is the man who many probably felt should have gone to head
the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC. But looking at the
critical place of Customs in the nation’s economy, you need somebody
like him. After oil, the next revenue spinner for the government is the
Customs. In these few days we have been listening to briefings, I have
seen people flying ideas that Customs revenue can be tripled on the
basis that corruption is eliminated.
I think that Col. Ali brings a rare breed of reputation that will be
difficult to find. There might be a few people in the Customs, but maybe
they are too low in rank to warrant this appointment. I think the
President has done the best thing anybody can do for the Customs and the
nation’s economy.
Otherwise, smuggling will ruin Nigeria. Look at what
is happening in the textile industry in Aba, Ikeja, Kaduna, Kano and
Gusua. There was a time when they used to employ about 400,000 people.
All the textile companies in the country today can no longer employ more
than 30,000 people.
We have more Nigerians in need of clothing today than those so called
glorious days of the textile industry. Look at the issue of rice.
Ebonyi, Anambra, Niger, Osun, Kebbi, Sokoto and Kogi have been brought
together by the President and given the matching order to produce the
rice need of this country. The rice industry in this country has failed
because cheap Asian rice is being dumped here.
The President did not ban
importation because that would have offended WTO. What he has done is
to say if you want to import rice go and source your dollars anywhere
you can get it. But CBN and the banks will always supply to
manufacturers who want to bring in spare parts, equipment and employ
Nigerians and for those who want to pay for medical bills abroad and
maybe for school fees. By that action, the scope of import has been
significantly reduced and that will encourage local production.
What is responsible for the cash crunch being experienced in the country, considering that this is happening under Buhari?
I don’t know anything about cash crunch. Perhaps, the more competent
people to answer your question are the bankers. I should think that
there is more money now going to the people because the local farmer who
could not sell his produce because nobody was buying will now sell
their goods.
The tailor who does three hours a day because of lack of
electricity can now do 12 hours a day and that will fetch him more
money. The revival of the economy is a process that will take a long
time. It will not require government opening the vault and bringing out
money and give to people.
It is a working economy. Look at the businesses in the North-East
that were closed for a long time for lack of patronage because of in
security. Now, if you go to Yola, it is booming, the same thing with
Gombe. Even in Maiduguri, you will be surprised at what you see. In
spite of the threat that hangs over their heads, night life is resuming.
This is what will bring money to the people because they do business
and work to earn money which they spend. I assure you that were it not
for some of the measures that the President tried to take through the
Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, maybe you would not know the naira by now.
The collapse would have been disastrous.
The Chibok girls are yet to be rescued, despite the promises made during the campaign and Nigerians are agitated…
To be fair to President Buhari, did he ever say he will bring back
the girls on the second day of his administration? What he has always
said is that we don’t even know where the girls are and that we need to
go in there and get the intelligence and situation of things and then
act. Without meaning to endanger what is left of those girls, you know
that the Sambissa forest is being degraded right now. The bombing is
done in a careful manner to avoid certain locations of interest as far
as the Chibok girls are concerned. I am not saying that the girls are
here or there. But there is better intelligence now. In fact, Sambissa
forest is under observation 24 hours in case somebody decides to move
those girls from point A to point B.
If there is any movement that is suspicious, we have drones; unmanned
aircrafts that fly around the place at night and during the day, the
men takes over and fly the aircraft. In the last few days, you even saw
the Chief of Army Staff leading the troops and I am aware that in the
last few weeks, very interesting pictures have been shown to the
President on the basis of which we will say to Nigerians, don’t lose
hope on the Chibok girls. I am not saying they have been found or that
they have been seen. But it is not yet time for Nigerians to say we have
lost them.
From what you have said it appears the government was jolted by what it found on ground regarding the state of security?
Boko Haram was there for five or six years under Jonathan and he did
not end it. Now you have a President who came and said go and end it in
three months and this is about to happen. From my conversation with
these commanders, it is clear that they are not going to wait for three
months, but do their best to beat the target given by the President. So,
there is so much going on and I can assure you that the spirit is very
high. The Army was there with the soldiers for about nine days. That is
leadership because you see him leading the soldiers from the front. If
the CoAS himself is there, who are you to drop your gun?
A lot is happening and Boko Haram has been degraded, they have lost
central command and are now in splinters. What you have now are bits and
pieces carrying out distractive action because they don’t want to go
down alone. So, they are looking for very soft targets such as churches,
mosques, markets. The Airforce is clearing this place for the ground
troops to move in. They are looking for bomb making structures and
moving convoy of these insurgents. But they are being careful about
certain locations with the hope not to harm these Chibok girls in they
are in those locations.
Should Nigerians hold Mr. President responsible if the insurgency is not ended in three months?
The President is responsible for the affairs of this country. If
insurgency is not ended in three months, what to do is not to start
blame game. As head of your home, if you tell your wife that your dinner
should be ready by 5pm and you come home, the dinner is not ready, are
you saying you will tell her to pack her things and leave your house or
you look for explanation. The President has appointed people and given
them the matching order to do this within three months. Supposing your
wife says the grinding machine you bought is fake, will that be her
fault that she didn’t prepare dinner by 5pm? A lot of people have argued
that the fight against corruption is selective and just in the media
because nobody has been convicted.
In all the years under Jonathan, how many high profile convictions did you get?
But this is the era of change. This question would have been okay in
1984 when Buhari came to government in Army uniform. What they did then
was to look around and sent to jail all those accused of corruption. We
all choose democracy and democracy has due process. Even if it is your
wish that those accused of corruption should be jailed tomorrow,
President Buhari will not do that because he was to follow the due
process of law because the constitution protect the right if every
Nigerians. If you have a case against anyone, go to the police or EFCC
or ICPC. Even at that, they need time to investigate.
Maybe that is why the anti graft agencies don’t have a good record of
conviction in the past because they don’t do a good job. Immediately
they take such cases to court, the judge will enter a no case submission
because of the shoddy nature the case was investigated. Because there
is a political purpose for that investigation, the case will collapse
immediately the hearing begin. This is going to be different. This crude
oil theft which so much has been said about and for which many
countries have promised to help, when the President went to America, he
did not ask Barack Obama to give him the list of Nigerians involved or
those who stole money.
We are doing our own investigation after which the government will
now say, thank you for blocking this account for a while until we are
able to prove that the crude oil that left Nigeria on this day for one
of your harbours did not have permission and papers to leave the shore
of Nigeria and so was stolen crude. Such a government will have to be
convinced that this money is proceed from stolen crude from Nigeria and
we got promises from all over the world that they will return the money.
When they return it, that again takes a process. President Buhari will
go to a judge and say this and that country has returned this money
because XYZ stole our crude and these are the proceeds. That is
evidence. So Nigerians will have to be patient with the President and
the process. You will not be happy if the President begin the trample on
the rights of fellow citizens.
The President promised to release the list of his ministers this month, September…
We are in early September. Can the President be given the grace of
end of September? Midnight of September 30. The President is working
hard and he is focused. What this country requires is the kind of focus
that he is bringing to bear on the key challenges the country faces. The
focus requires that attention be brought to bear on certain key areas.
What sense does it make if you live in fear and had to stay indoor
everyday because of curfew and insecurity?
Which would you prefer? Ministers in jeeps with tinted glasses and
police escorts or your ability to sleep well without the fear of the
bomber? This country will not experience development without peace and
security. The President has made that possible and he is addressing
corruption that has eaten deep into the society. But certainly ministers
will come. Sometimes, you begin to wonder where the pressure is coming
from. But you understand that it is a reward for delivering my
constituency and so it is understandable. But the country should be
placed above anything else and I think that is what the President is
doing.
Is the government comfortable with what seems like sectional imbalance in appointments being made by the President?
I have said that these appointments do not constitute five percent of
the appointment the President is going to make and they will come in
waves. The President has also made two more appointment from the South
West. Do you want Northerners to start abusing him for giving two
appointments to South-West? They are emotional reactions to things that
will come and go. This country has gone past that stage. I am not
talking about competence because in this country, we have so many
competent people all over the place. But give it to the President, he
has the right to choose those he will work with or cook his food.
Somebody has cooked for him for 25 years and because of federal
character, you want him to remove him and bring in another person? These
appointments are like a fan which must blow all sides. These things
will come and Nigerians will feel adequately represented because it is
the requirement of the constitution of Nigeria and that is the position
of the President because he is a fair, just leader and will do right to
all manners of people.
Do you think the President will enjoy the cooperation of the judiciary in the fight against corruption?
Let me tell you that the judiciary in this country is lucky because
it is led by the present Chief Justice of Nigeria, CJN, because he has
brought to the judiciary a reputation of incorruptibility and strong
will. If things are going wrong, the judiciary is also watching. Even
under Jonathan, the NJC was still wielding the big stick and judges have
been fired. If it happened then, what do you expect to happen now? Let
us leave it to them because it is their own domain.
The President is careful about one thing: separation of power. There
is a new environment in the country. Nigerians themselves choose Buhari
not because he had money to give to voters at the polling centres. He
said he will do three things: tackle corruption, economy and security.
So, if you are a sitting judge and you know that you are a member of
this community, you should know this is the sentiment now, abhorrence of
corruption. I believe everybody is being touched by what is happening
now. It is not just about power, but the changes are happening
everywhere.
The President promised job creation, but in the last 100 days we have witnessed job loss, especially in the banking sector.
People are losing jobs others are gaining jobs. That is a normal
thing. The scale on which the President wants to create job is not this
one or two jobs. He is looking at a mass transformation of agriculture
and solid mineral. The projection is that agriculture alone can mop up
all unemployed people in this country when taken seriously. Americans
and Europeans pride themselves in agriculture. There is lot going on
right now. There is a committee headed by Vice President Yemi Osinbajo.
For the first time, Nigerians have voted for a party which has a welfare
programme for them. That will come bit by bit until the promise is
delivered. The youths should get ready. If it is office work, there is
office work in agriculture and this government will create the
environment for Nigerians to work in agriculture.
The Senate leadership seems not to have good rapport with the
President, to the extent that the Senate President cannot have audience
with the President…
Did you see a letter from the Senate President requesting for
audience with President Buhari? If he had said so, then believe him. But
from the point of view of the President where I look at things, I have
not seen a letter any such letter or the President telling the Senate
President he has no time for him.
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